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 		<title>Comment on Musical Mayhem??? Part 2 by: k</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Oh and just to add to my essay...

I don't know how the band selects their song. And I am not sure whether these songs are the same contemporary songs I hear on the &quot;WOW Worship series&quot;.

So, again, my criticism of contemporary music and the relevance of that to what is happening (which has already happened in my church- and I have very very mixed feelings!) might be very little.

I must confess Abouna, that I was into contemporary Christian worship songs. I liked Third Day, I was given some Hillsong CDs and other things. When the band started singing some of these songs, I sort of knew what they were choosing from. I am not in any way a Theologian, but I believe strongly that some of their choices were either poor or inappropriate. The head singers are involved in Hillsong, and to criticise their choice is to criticise the church they are most devoted to. I hope this does not happen in your church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh and just to add to my essay&#8230;</p>
	<p>I don&#8217;t know how the band selects their song. And I am not sure whether these songs are the same contemporary songs I hear on the &#8220;WOW Worship series&#8221;.</p>
	<p>So, again, my criticism of contemporary music and the relevance of that to what is happening (which has already happened in my church- and I have very very mixed feelings!) might be very little.</p>
	<p>I must confess Abouna, that I was into contemporary Christian worship songs. I liked Third Day, I was given some Hillsong CDs and other things. When the band started singing some of these songs, I sort of knew what they were choosing from. I am not in any way a Theologian, but I believe strongly that some of their choices were either poor or inappropriate. The head singers are involved in Hillsong, and to criticise their choice is to criticise the church they are most devoted to. I hope this does not happen in your church.
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 		<title>Comment on Musical Mayhem??? Part 2 by: k</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Bless me Abouna.

I have no problem with using different musical styles and rhythms, but what I think is the problem that will be faced, is that contemporary 'worship' and music that is sold today, is the product of consumer marketing, rather than soul-searching and God pleasing. The multi-million dollar industry is run by opportunists of the psyche of Simon the Musician, rather than of David the Shepherd. I know that I should qualify that statement, and I hope to do so later, if you think this point is worth exploring.

If you espouse the music, you give greater exposure to young people like me, the stores such as Koorong and WORD. Great places, for sure. But driven by the unguided, heterodox consumers, they advertise foxes like Joyce Meyers and Benny Hill. 

It is not just that we often do not have contemporary Christian music being sold in our Church, it is that anything that has the word &quot;Christ&quot; (not used in a phrase of profanity) is considered Christian, and would be mixed in the same album. Further, their theological validity are not tested. And moreover, I find that young people are either &quot;very tolerant&quot; or &quot;naively accepting&quot;. 

The bottom line, I feel, of contemporary Christian worship is it is what can be sold to the public- not what is faithful to Christ and His Church. For many of these artists, this is their livelihood- not that is an evil thing! But, I think there is a huge compromise! It is not what glorifies God the most or what does the heart speak- but what would people like most that will be known and popular, and finally reach our parish. 

I think what has been lost with contemporary worship is that it is not a flavoured ice-cream. Hymns are for God. They are not meant to touch us (directly, I think)- aren't we suppose to be touched by God Himself? I really do think that many Christians, including myself (if I can be called one) have sold themselves short, with the quick fix of contemporary rhyme. But then again, I don't think that the psalms of David really cure the vexed spirit of King Soul. 

The relevance of the above, of course, is very little. It more or less warns of a danger, rather than gives any intelligible argument against the usage of Theologically correct and wholesome contemporary songs. As a Church, do we not pray &quot;let us sing to Him a new hymn&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Bless me Abouna.</p>
	<p>I have no problem with using different musical styles and rhythms, but what I think is the problem that will be faced, is that contemporary &#8216;worship&#8217; and music that is sold today, is the product of consumer marketing, rather than soul-searching and God pleasing. The multi-million dollar industry is run by opportunists of the psyche of Simon the Musician, rather than of David the Shepherd. I know that I should qualify that statement, and I hope to do so later, if you think this point is worth exploring.</p>
	<p>If you espouse the music, you give greater exposure to young people like me, the stores such as Koorong and WORD. Great places, for sure. But driven by the unguided, heterodox consumers, they advertise foxes like Joyce Meyers and Benny Hill. </p>
	<p>It is not just that we often do not have contemporary Christian music being sold in our Church, it is that anything that has the word &#8220;Christ&#8221; (not used in a phrase of profanity) is considered Christian, and would be mixed in the same album. Further, their theological validity are not tested. And moreover, I find that young people are either &#8220;very tolerant&#8221; or &#8220;naively accepting&#8221;. </p>
	<p>The bottom line, I feel, of contemporary Christian worship is it is what can be sold to the public- not what is faithful to Christ and His Church. For many of these artists, this is their livelihood- not that is an evil thing! But, I think there is a huge compromise! It is not what glorifies God the most or what does the heart speak- but what would people like most that will be known and popular, and finally reach our parish. </p>
	<p>I think what has been lost with contemporary worship is that it is not a flavoured ice-cream. Hymns are for God. They are not meant to touch us (directly, I think)- aren&#8217;t we suppose to be touched by God Himself? I really do think that many Christians, including myself (if I can be called one) have sold themselves short, with the quick fix of contemporary rhyme. But then again, I don&#8217;t think that the psalms of David really cure the vexed spirit of King Soul. </p>
	<p>The relevance of the above, of course, is very little. It more or less warns of a danger, rather than gives any intelligible argument against the usage of Theologically correct and wholesome contemporary songs. As a Church, do we not pray &#8220;let us sing to Him a new hymn&#8221;.
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 		<title>Comment on When Cultures Collide by: ROMANI SERGYOS</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 04:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>i attended the mass yesterday 17th august 2008 in our local church &quot;St Mary and St Stevens &quot; i was there  with my wife and child at 7.45 and i found a couple of young children and an adult running around i believe they were preparing the altar ...i had my child who got his Tonia and went to the altar but came back and put it in his bag  and returned to give a hand with the others ...at 8.00 one of the priests turned up  up aaaaaaaaaaaaaand the church started ...so far not too bad , but from that time till 9.30 those deacons had been turning  up  in a group of two and others in individual basis and all of the them got permission to dress as deacons except  the last two , i believe  one at 9.20 and the other at 9.30 who i believe they had been turned away ..the question now that we  as parents , we are on trouble now as our young child just a few weeks ago heard the announcement from father Antonios if they want to dress it is between 7.45 and 8.15 and no later than that and we got him up with difficulty this morning to prepare himself to church , he is entirely confused and this will make it difficult for us to get him early to the church ????we are confused too and we wonder is it  one of the cultural problems of  punctuality???!!! might be sort of flexibility ??!! could be i reckon there is an attitude problems at all levels because there are alot of problems around of such kind  ??!!might be  something else it  needs clarification  from the church ???? may God maintain and improve in this part of the world  our spiritual life within our way of life in one positive blessed  standard  in every thing we do and without any confusion to those least , amen ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>i attended the mass yesterday 17th august 2008 in our local church &#8220;St Mary and St Stevens &#8221; i was there  with my wife and child at 7.45 and i found a couple of young children and an adult running around i believe they were preparing the altar &#8230;i had my child who got his Tonia and went to the altar but came back and put it in his bag  and returned to give a hand with the others &#8230;at 8.00 one of the priests turned up  up aaaaaaaaaaaaaand the church started &#8230;so far not too bad , but from that time till 9.30 those deacons had been turning  up  in a group of two and others in individual basis and all of the them got permission to dress as deacons except  the last two , i believe  one at 9.20 and the other at 9.30 who i believe they had been turned away ..the question now that we  as parents , we are on trouble now as our young child just a few weeks ago heard the announcement from father Antonios if they want to dress it is between 7.45 and 8.15 and no later than that and we got him up with difficulty this morning to prepare himself to church , he is entirely confused and this will make it difficult for us to get him early to the church ????we are confused too and we wonder is it  one of the cultural problems of  punctuality???!!! might be sort of flexibility ??!! could be i reckon there is an attitude problems at all levels because there are alot of problems around of such kind  ??!!might be  something else it  needs clarification  from the church ???? may God maintain and improve in this part of the world  our spiritual life within our way of life in one positive blessed  standard  in every thing we do and without any confusion to those least , amen &#8230;.
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 		<title>Comment on Musical Mayhem??? by: MA</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 07:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;To the pure all things are pure&quot; - Titus 1:15, If this helps the growth any persons spiritual life, and it is truly down out of purity and love, allowing them to draw closer to God, who are we to interfere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;To the pure all things are pure&#8221; - Titus 1:15, If this helps the growth any persons spiritual life, and it is truly down out of purity and love, allowing them to draw closer to God, who are we to interfere.
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 		<title>Comment on Musical Mayhem??? by: ROMANI SERGYOS</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Another issue of interest  about those musical instruments and its importance to some Christian believers i came across it recently in WYD  and it might be of interest to some and that  when bishop Zubier of the Catholic church of Sudan visited Sydney and a lot of of Catholic Christian believers from Sudan &quot;mainly southern of Sudan &quot; gathered in the Mass to enjoy his visit and i was around to enjoy the blessing of this great spiritual man of God and they raised the issue that  the old congregation missed the way of church  life &quot; church culture &quot; used to enjoy their church and praise God over there through their DRUMS  during the hymns and mass however they felt happy with the Australian way of life in the churches for their children , i believe it is happening the opposite with us as coptes in this part of the world , however the Bishop decided to send them two priests to fulfill their spiritual needs , what a great Democratic way and trust between a true spiritual  shepherd and his flock to look after them , anyhow i thought to bring the issue as relevant to our current issue , we might benefit from it and learn about others as at the end of the day all of us Christians ...praise the name of  God by your life , amen ......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Another issue of interest  about those musical instruments and its importance to some Christian believers i came across it recently in WYD  and it might be of interest to some and that  when bishop Zubier of the Catholic church of Sudan visited Sydney and a lot of of Catholic Christian believers from Sudan &#8220;mainly southern of Sudan &#8221; gathered in the Mass to enjoy his visit and i was around to enjoy the blessing of this great spiritual man of God and they raised the issue that  the old congregation missed the way of church  life &#8221; church culture &#8221; used to enjoy their church and praise God over there through their DRUMS  during the hymns and mass however they felt happy with the Australian way of life in the churches for their children , i believe it is happening the opposite with us as coptes in this part of the world , however the Bishop decided to send them two priests to fulfill their spiritual needs , what a great Democratic way and trust between a true spiritual  shepherd and his flock to look after them , anyhow i thought to bring the issue as relevant to our current issue , we might benefit from it and learn about others as at the end of the day all of us Christians &#8230;praise the name of  God by your life , amen &#8230;&#8230;
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 		<title>Comment on Musical Mayhem??? by: ROMANI SERGYOS</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Our local English Church&quot; Mt Druit &quot; has got well organized  and cooperative  group of deacons  who work in a team spirit all the time during the mass as well as during the hymns which put  the whole congregation with them  in attentive way  and in a big group  enjoying  the presence of Jesus with us and  praising  the name of God .....so with such good  foundation  and great right  ritual  attitude i beeeelieve the introduction of some modern musical instruments specially such organ , piano , violin during the hymns will maximize our heavenly  enjoyment presence ...our great David the prophet not only  used to use musical  instruments and singing  but he used to dance for God from his great joy in his holy  presence ....i believe it will be great  positive experience for our church  as one of the revolution  organizational aspects to get our church in the next decades to come .....may God make the doors of the church open all the time and attract more believers  till thy kingdom come , amen ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Our local English Church&#8221; Mt Druit &#8221; has got well organized  and cooperative  group of deacons  who work in a team spirit all the time during the mass as well as during the hymns which put  the whole congregation with them  in attentive way  and in a big group  enjoying  the presence of Jesus with us and  praising  the name of God &#8230;..so with such good  foundation  and great right  ritual  attitude i beeeelieve the introduction of some modern musical instruments specially such organ , piano , violin during the hymns will maximize our heavenly  enjoyment presence &#8230;our great David the prophet not only  used to use musical  instruments and singing  but he used to dance for God from his great joy in his holy  presence &#8230;.i believe it will be great  positive experience for our church  as one of the revolution  organizational aspects to get our church in the next decades to come &#8230;..may God make the doors of the church open all the time and attract more believers  till thy kingdom come , amen &#8230;.
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 		<title>Comment on Passion Week Psalms by: Fr. Antonios Kaldas</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 01:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Ibram

Most of the Ancient Fathers identify the Abomination of Desolation with some form of image of the Antichrist that he will set up as the centrepiece of the Temple of Jerusalem which he is expected to rebuild. It is an abomination because it is a sort of horrible blasphemy that he will set up a statue of himself in the place where the Ark of the Covenant used to be, representing the presence of God in the Temple. It is like he is making himself out to be God.

Hope that helps.

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	<p>Most of the Ancient Fathers identify the Abomination of Desolation with some form of image of the Antichrist that he will set up as the centrepiece of the Temple of Jerusalem which he is expected to rebuild. It is an abomination because it is a sort of horrible blasphemy that he will set up a statue of himself in the place where the Ark of the Covenant used to be, representing the presence of God in the Temple. It is like he is making himself out to be God.</p>
	<p>Hope that helps.</p>
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 		<title>Comment on Passion Week Psalms by: ibram</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>abouna on the topic of passion week i was attending a tuesday eve and i hear a verse in one of the gospels which talks about the abomination of desolation but i didnt uderstand what is meant, can u please explain?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>abouna on the topic of passion week i was attending a tuesday eve and i hear a verse in one of the gospels which talks about the abomination of desolation but i didnt uderstand what is meant, can u please explain?
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 		<title>Comment on Love, Love, Love by: ROMANI SERGYOS</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Mother Teresa once said,&quot;we can not do great things on this earth but we can only do little things with great love &quot;once a friend of mine told me,&quot; i want my life to be about service and i want to do so and so  , but i can not do anything yet &quot;.Someday when i am really successful , i will do lot of  little things to others , meanwhile , there are hungry , distressed people want to hear just good word ,desperate,helpless,elderly ,sick ,depressed ,lonely , and thousands of other little things that need to be done ....Mother Teresa was right , we can not change the world but we can make a difference with those little things of love and kindness..we will feel the joy of giving and satisfaction and will make our world just a little brighter ..God said &quot;I want mercy and not sacrifice &quot;...it would be great  if we focus in giving with love and care  on little things , it is not only to  fulfill the will of God  and give us that great joy and satisfaction , but it will assist us to improve our own  attitude in our churches at all levels to listen , respect , love and care for one another everywhere , openness ,honesty , trust ...... our churches need to do a lot of work in this aspect by setting the good example in this aspect  and focusing all the time on love and care in their sermons  as well as  in  real practicle   life&quot; such visitations ,  outreach projects , give the needy ,do something for the homeless , visit the sick and a lot of projects are there , sometimes i wonder what  percentage of time and money goes to the needy and those least which God mentioned them  from  our churches  and from us as individuals &quot; ....God is love and without love nobody will see him , God said , &quot;i was hungry and fed me , desperate and you comforted etc and he put it very clear and straight forward if you do not look after those  least you  will never see eternal life , amen &quot; ..... the bottom line ,without real love and mercey to those least nobody will see eternal life ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Mother Teresa once said,&#8221;we can not do great things on this earth but we can only do little things with great love &#8220;once a friend of mine told me,&#8221; i want my life to be about service and i want to do so and so  , but i can not do anything yet &#8220;.Someday when i am really successful , i will do lot of  little things to others , meanwhile , there are hungry , distressed people want to hear just good word ,desperate,helpless,elderly ,sick ,depressed ,lonely , and thousands of other little things that need to be done &#8230;.Mother Teresa was right , we can not change the world but we can make a difference with those little things of love and kindness..we will feel the joy of giving and satisfaction and will make our world just a little brighter ..God said &#8220;I want mercy and not sacrifice &#8220;&#8230;it would be great  if we focus in giving with love and care  on little things , it is not only to  fulfill the will of God  and give us that great joy and satisfaction , but it will assist us to improve our own  attitude in our churches at all levels to listen , respect , love and care for one another everywhere , openness ,honesty , trust &#8230;&#8230; our churches need to do a lot of work in this aspect by setting the good example in this aspect  and focusing all the time on love and care in their sermons  as well as  in  real practicle   life&#8221; such visitations ,  outreach projects , give the needy ,do something for the homeless , visit the sick and a lot of projects are there , sometimes i wonder what  percentage of time and money goes to the needy and those least which God mentioned them  from  our churches  and from us as individuals &#8221; &#8230;.God is love and without love nobody will see him , God said , &#8220;i was hungry and fed me , desperate and you comforted etc and he put it very clear and straight forward if you do not look after those  least you  will never see eternal life , amen &#8221; &#8230;.. the bottom line ,without real love and mercey to those least nobody will see eternal life &#8230;.
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 		<title>Comment on Love, Love, Love by: Romani Sergyos</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>God said faith , hope and love in  parallel with our deeds  are essential  and a must to inherit eternal life but LOVE is the greatest of all.....God is love ..God does not want too much from us except pure heart  filled with love as God said , &quot;love God from all  your heart and soul and love thy neighbor as thy self ..Mother Terrassa &quot;God bless her soul &quot;in our recent history said &quot; small things with love and care are great in front of the eyes of God ....God does not want big things from us , God  wants your  heart and love ...look how David won the love of God , it is entirely through his great , loving  heart  to God ....may God give us pure hearts full of love to him and to all the mankind everywhere , amen ....i recall all the time a nice sermon of Father Antonios which i heard  and i enjoyed a lot during Pascha week  about love and specially those standard criteria used  to measure it against .... it is actually like quality assurance and validation of the standard of your own love ....i ask his holiness to put it in the Blog , as i believe a lot of people will benefit from it as i did  ....may God strengthen  our faith , hope and love and give us pure hearts filled up with his love and to all mankind , amen ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>God said faith , hope and love in  parallel with our deeds  are essential  and a must to inherit eternal life but LOVE is the greatest of all&#8230;..God is love ..God does not want too much from us except pure heart  filled with love as God said , &#8220;love God from all  your heart and soul and love thy neighbor as thy self ..Mother Terrassa &#8220;God bless her soul &#8220;in our recent history said &#8221; small things with love and care are great in front of the eyes of God &#8230;.God does not want big things from us , God  wants your  heart and love &#8230;look how David won the love of God , it is entirely through his great , loving  heart  to God &#8230;.may God give us pure hearts full of love to him and to all the mankind everywhere , amen &#8230;.i recall all the time a nice sermon of Father Antonios which i heard  and i enjoyed a lot during Pascha week  about love and specially those standard criteria used  to measure it against &#8230;. it is actually like quality assurance and validation of the standard of your own love &#8230;.i ask his holiness to put it in the Blog , as i believe a lot of people will benefit from it as i did  &#8230;.may God strengthen  our faith , hope and love and give us pure hearts filled up with his love and to all mankind , amen &#8230;.
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